{"id":96,"date":"2009-11-07T08:29:59","date_gmt":"2009-11-07T12:29:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/?p=96"},"modified":"2024-03-13T17:55:16","modified_gmt":"2024-03-13T17:55:16","slug":"ftp-clients-and-windows","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/2009\/11\/07\/ftp-clients-and-windows\/","title":{"rendered":"FTP clients and Windows"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This week I had what I consider to be curious experiences with others regarding ftp.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m what I would call old school; I started using ftp about 15 years ago when the internet was barely, if at all, entering the greater public consciousness, and the piece of software I had access to, gFTP, wasn&#8217;t chargeware.  Way back when, Windows didn&#8217;t even have its own integrated network stack, let alone effectively having integrated ftp abilities in Windows Explorer.<\/p>\n<p>Then Windows and the Vice President came along and claimed to have invented the internet :), and people use drag &#038; drop the way you can between two directories in a gui.  I have never done it this way.  Ever.  Even the first time I asked IT to set up an ftp site for me for a work project, I naturally downloaded and installed FileZilla after immediately finding their instructions on how to do it through Windows Explorer confusing.  So the Windows way is completely foreign and confusing to me.<\/p>\n<p>The first curious experience was when I, probably naively, sent out an email to a bunch of co-workers who have access to a corporate ftp site for download of files resulting from field work, such as photos.  I said that if people were having difficulty transferring files using the &#8220;windows&#8221; way of transferring files, that they could use Filezilla.  The response from the project manager was &#8220;Why can&#8217;t we do it directly?&#8221;  Simple response, &#8220;apologies for the confusion, just in case the way IT described it doesn&#8217;t work, here&#8217;s another way to try to directly do the transfers.&#8221;  Again, I became aware that I was probably naive in presuming that the &#8220;windows&#8221; way may or may not work once outside the corporate IT network &#8212; why wouldn&#8217;t it?  I just checked using the windows machine down the hall on my home network, and of course I was wrong and it works.<\/p>\n<p>But I found the reaction curious anyway; maybe I was taking it too literally, but I found the &#8220;why can&#8217;t we do it directly?&#8221; part curious since I was proposing an alternate DIRECT way of doing things.<\/p>\n<p>The second curious experience was more concrete.  A co-worker was beside me, and we&#8217;re discussing the contents of the FTP site.  I fire up FileZilla, and they ask me what I&#8217;m doing.  I carefully respond; they say they&#8217;ve never seen it done that way, and it looks confusing.  My turn.  I explain &#8220;I&#8217;m starting up an ftp client.  Here are the files on my computer on the left side, here are the files on the ftp site on the right.&#8221;  &#8220;oh really?  That must be a new way.&#8221;  (harumppphhhh.)  &#8220;Uhm, I&#8217;ve been using ftp clients that look this way for the past 15 years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t continue into a tyrade about how Windows has people brainwashed into thinking that they way to do anything on a computer is the &#8220;Windows Way&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Sheesh, I don&#8217;t know how to fix my car when it breaks down.  Doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t have an idea about what it looks like under the hood.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week I had what I consider to be curious experiences with others regarding ftp. I&#8217;m what I would call old school; I started using ftp about 15 years ago when the internet was barely, if at all, entering the greater public consciousness, and the piece of software I had access to, gFTP, wasn&#8217;t chargeware. &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/2009\/11\/07\/ftp-clients-and-windows\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;FTP clients and Windows&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34,283,86,142],"tags":[284,126],"class_list":["post-96","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-computers","category-ftp","category-internet","category-windows","tag-ftp","tag-windows"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=96"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":159,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96\/revisions\/159"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=96"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=96"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=96"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}