{"id":454,"date":"2013-03-08T22:48:04","date_gmt":"2013-03-09T02:48:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/?p=454"},"modified":"2013-11-17T18:26:41","modified_gmt":"2013-11-17T22:26:41","slug":"installing-then-removing-the-mate-desktop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/2013\/03\/08\/installing-then-removing-the-mate-desktop\/","title":{"rendered":"Installing, then removing, the Mate desktop"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back in mid-January, 2013, I switched to the Mate Desktop.  I can&#8217;t figure out if I changed because I was getting tired of Gnome 3 and all the complaints surrounding it, including my own, and fell over a cliff when an imp pushed me in the form of my brother wanting me to install Fedora 18 with Mate on it, or the other way around.<\/p>\n<p>I went through a lot to get the desktop to a level at which I had become accustomed under Fedora 14.  I took a lot of notes; I would need them in the next few days for my brother&#8217;s system.  Indeed, they were useful; the install went rather well, in no small part due to my notes.  Incidentally, it all felt like a fresh reinstall.  Yet, the whole transition was smooth, and I hadn&#8217;t forgotten anything.  (Having a CentOS box with a Gnome 2 desktop helped. \ud83d\ude42 )<\/p>\n<p>Two things presented themselves as relative problems, one right away, and one that took several weeks to develop.<\/p>\n<p>The first problem was a general set of issues:  I was hoping for what amounted to the Gnome 2 desktop, having reached its apex (for me) in Fedora 14.  The general environment and look and feel of Gnome 2 were there, but a number of packages, some might call secondary, weren&#8217;t there.  Most notably, PackageKit, a gui application for adding and removing software, and xsane for scanners, and hplip &#8212; removing the ability to use my scanner before reinstalling hplip &#8212; but there were others.  These were trivial absences since installing them is trivially easy, but curiously, PackageKit still wouldn&#8217;t show up in the menus.  This was still a trivial absence since I rarely use PackageKit, normally preferring command-line installations and updates; but this was still a mild nuisance since I occasionally like to see what is available in the repositories, as well as some descriptions.  And, I found that the themes were different from that to which I&#8217;d become accustomed, such as buttons, most notable for me in LibreOffice, were different.  I was struggling to remember how much of that to which I was accustomed was that to which I had been accustomed for a long time, and how much was a case of much having changed however many times since I started using Fedora with F8 such that I was numb to any such changes.<\/p>\n<p>But the other was a bit more insidious in its latency:  After but a few weeks, it felt old.  I daresay stale.  And, it felt unloved.  I suppose that in having used Gnome 3 for a year and a half, the familiarity it did have with Gnome 2, and the extensions having smoothed out many complaints, I had become a convert.<\/p>\n<p>So, what did I do?<\/p>\n<p>yum groupinstall gnome-desktop<br \/>\nyum groupremove mate-desktop<br \/>\nyum groupinstall gnome-desktop (to reinstall that which was removed by the previous command)<br \/>\nyum install gnome-shell-extensions*<br \/>\nyum install gnome-tweak-tool<br \/>\nyum remove xscreensaver*<br \/>\nreboot<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; and here I am.  <del>Happy again.  No, I&#8217;m not sure I want to say that. \ud83d\ude42<\/del><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in mid-January, 2013, I switched to the Mate Desktop. I can&#8217;t figure out if I changed because I was getting tired of Gnome 3 and all the complaints surrounding it, including my own, and fell over a cliff when an imp pushed me in the form of my brother wanting me to install Fedora &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/2013\/03\/08\/installing-then-removing-the-mate-desktop\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Installing, then removing, the Mate desktop&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-454","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/454","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=454"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/454\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":599,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/454\/revisions\/599"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=454"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=454"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.malak.ca\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=454"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}